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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 10:58 pm 
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Hello,

I've just found and joined this site because I'm trying, yet again, to overcome a 34 year addiction to porn. I acquired it at the age of 17 or so, about the same time I became an alcoholic/addict. I overcame those in 3/85 and have been sober for over 27 years by walking into an AA room one evening and refusing to let my head talk me back out the door while I did what I was told because I believed that if it worked for others it could for me. That, and the last thing in this world I wanted to do that night was to go back to my darkened apartment to fight my demons alone. I know the 12 steps intimately and am a co-founder of a Big Book study group back in '92 that lives to this day. But it didn't help with my porn addiction because I didn't see it in quite the same light along the way. I do now. With my simultaneous longitudinal experience with successful recovery from two addictions while steadfastly feeding a third I've come to some observations and insights that, though they be acute, by themselves don't end the cycle and, who knows, may even help perpetuate it. Young men especially, take heed.

I am 51, married with six children, very fit and healthy and enjoy a close, intimate relationship with my wife of 26 years who I've known for 34. You could say I acquired her too at the same time I did my addictions. Sounds odd I know but our love life and depth of communication is about pitch perfect, my "compartmentalized" porn addiction excepted, and getting better as time goes by because we were meant for each other and we know it. She knows vaguely of my struggles in a "see no evil" kinda way, allowing hope to triumph over history by telling herself all is well because enough time has passed since she last caught me at it. She suspects it goes on, still. Like most women, porn use by a spouse or partner mystifies and hurts her greatly and she takes it personally when the subject intrudes though she knows enough about addictions to understand the sexual acting out "is but a symptom" of deeper problems and has nothing to do with her. Still, she instinctively feels the sting of embarrassment, shame and an undeserved sense of impugned inadequacy and I know it.

My life is at a standstill and I am stuck. Deeply mired in the muck and mud of my secret addiction that manifests itself outwardly in all the areas of routine, normal behaviors and activities a healthy person would be growing in. Mostly, I avoid or flee them. Three years ago I had a near-death heart attack that set in motion a chain of events that exacerbated the addiction which in turn is making it impossible to move forward in life at all. It's a cliché but a true one that one rethinks a lot of things after such a close call. Having discovered life is indeed short I wanted out of my old career which I never liked but stuck with out of duty to my family. So I made the moves to exit it but am incapacitated at the moment of moving into something else. My attitude towards the future is ambivalent at best and very cloudy at worst in large part I think because I am a failure on a daily basis and have been for 34 years. Every day I tell myself this has got to stop, that I want it to stop, that everything would be so much better if it stopped and by golly today is the day!...Only to find myself at the computer, coming out of the fog, hours later wondering how it happened it again. I go through a day-to-day cycle of resolve, failure, regret/remorse, resolve...repeat ad infinitum. Like most long term, "functional" addicts, the cycle oscillates in intensity but never ceases.

I am not unintelligent and can do pretty much anything I've a mind to, within reason, but not for long. No matter what success I have initally at a business venture, hobby, activity, whatever, my confidence, motivation and focus steadily wane until I simply...give up. Most of the time I've given up in spirit before I've even realized it. Because just like termites weakening a house's frame, my daily failures with my porn addiction sap those healthy qualities, obscure my purpose, cloud my focus and eventually convince me yet again I am a failure. And so indeed I am...once again. For the last year I've spent just about every day holed up in my den doing porn while pretending to work while my wife goes to her business. I am capable of containing it enough to maintain a façade of psuedo-normalcy around hearth and home but I am going nowhere, doing nothing, becoming nobody and my non-productive presence at home is the elephant in our living room.

I have lived all of my adult life as an impostor, a man with a guilty secret who knows in the refuge of his own thoughts he doesn't measure up and is not the man others (if a man at all!), even his own family, especially his own family, believes he is. I live in dread of discovery by others and so few people know me. I am without real friends and have been all of my life. I fit in nowhere and with no others. My wife wonders why about these things but I know.

When I permit myself to think about it, I am almost overwhelmed with guilt and shame over the countless thousands of hours I have wasted, the lost opportunities to be with and do for my kids, the financial straits and looming calamities my present dibilitation has brought us to, the strain and pressures I've laid on my wife, the emotional pain I've caused her, the inability to go forth in the world and accomplish all I am capable of and most of all...the fear. The constant, gnawing, fickle, inexplicable, unreasonable and unjustifiable little fears that give the wheel of dysfunction a start and keep it going 'round. In happier moments I know they're just phantoms of the mind but they hold sway all the same.

I am tired and nearly at my wits end. Most nights I go to bed with a prayer on my lips that I might die of a second heart attack in the night and thus relieve both my family's material anxieties with my substantial life insurance and their emotional trials, too. A kind of twofer. I truly believe their present circumstances would be transformed for the better overnight and a great impediment to each's individual growth of mind and spirit removed. Some days I plot and scheme how I might bring it on and work out hard enough to put most 20 year olds to shame in the hopes I'll blow a gasket but no luck, yet. In His grace and wisdom God says no to our selfish prayers as a rule and so He does to these ungrateful pleas of mine to quit this life in a coward's disgrace and I wake again to my endless struggle. The fight no one else sees. I fear letting my wife know the whole truth lest the scales fall from her eyes and she comprehends fully the source of most of our, in her case undeserved, trials and trevails and her devotion and patience finally reach their limits.

But it doesn't mean God hasn't answered my prayers for help. While searching out treatment or recovery info I found this site and other resources. I've begun the course and am doing the exercises. They make sense and the information is useful. As of this writing I have 30 hours of sobriety but I've had that a hundred times before. And while looking for an SAA meeting, a very dicey proposition in itself in my mind, I found a "sexual purity" ministry complete with 12 steps and all at the local mega-church. I've tried that in the past and am a little skeptical but I'm going to try again with more humility and less disdain that my Christian friends don't quite do recovery as the original bunch at AA does. Take what you can use and leave the rest the old timers would counsel not the least being to break out of the isolation for starters.

That would be a big start for me. If you met me you would assume I was an executive, hard driving businessman, senior military man or some other disciplined, can-do guy. I got that look. And In fits and starts over the years I could be and was that man but not for very long. Six months, maybe a year but with the termites of near-daily porn failures knibbling away I could not keep in sync the burgeoning self-image on the inside and what increasingly felt like a charade on the outside. Now, I cannot muster the strength to do it at all.

I need help to finally get free for the first time in life and I need your prayers.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 1:32 pm 
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Hi Mark51,

I have read all your recent post and wanted to say "we are brothers". Same story exactly only I win! I was 40 years addicted. (I guess that's not quite what you'd call a win, hey?)
I want you to be absolutely loud and clear about one thing. IT CAN BE BEATEN! You can experience a fantastic turnaround and
it sounds like you can 'visualise' yourself 'clean', and you certainly understand the pickle you are in and you are here talk to me about it.
So you are on your way and congratulations. Welcome.

There are many aspects to your story (too many to list) that ring true in my life too. Ours is a very, very similar story. (Did I say the before?)

There are so so so many wonderful aspects of this FTRW web site. It is without doubt it is the main reason I have reached 115 days without
masturbating or viewing porn. I could not have believed that possible before. Mark51, I was so addicted. I swore off it so many times.
Often I lasted a few hours. So to go from multiple times a day to zero is possible. Mark51, if I can do this so can you.

Start now?

Rather than tell you my story here I'd encourage to go to my ClearSkyComing Recovery Journal and click back to my day 1 and read of my struggle. Have a look at some poems I have written at 30 days and 60 days and my 90 day Review under the Sobriety Anniversary Topic. I do believe you will see our journey's are similar. And you will be encouraged that after 40 years of addiction I can change. Disclaimer: I am not perfect. I am as close to a failure every day, as I have ever been. I am not deluded but I am fighting hard! And I do believe I am winning.

Mark, there are lots of really great people to meet and questions to discuss with here at FTRW.
They have been so helpful to me. I can't sing their praises loudly enough. It is a privilege to walk the walk with them. I hope you find this all helpful.
I sincerely wish you a wonderful life ahead and as always kindest regards CSC.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 1:38 pm 
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PS on an admin point. You are probably better off copying your post and creating own Recovery Journal under the discussion board topic of the same name. ;-) CSC

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 2:57 pm 
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Hi Mark,

I'm so glad you found this forum and posted here. It hurts to hear you say a lot of this... But I hope you can find strength to move forward regardless of where you're at now.

I also had a background in AA before I was forced to deal with sex addiction. By far one of the biggest steps I've taken was walking into an SAA meeting in April of last year. I've had a couple relapses since then, but at this point I can say I've been completely sober from unhealthy sexual behavior for over 9 months. There are others in SAA that can claim years and decades of sobriety.

I'd encourage you to find an SAA meeting and work up the courage to go. I didn't know what to expect myself, but it was much less uncomfortable than I initially thought it would be, and by the time I had gone to a couple meetings I was already feeling much more equipped to move forward through this addiction. You can find a meeting list here: http://saa-recovery.org/Meetings/

No matter what, keep coming back; we're all behind you.

Your friend,
Absolution.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 11:54 am 
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Hello Mark
Do not give up. If you do then you fail. And I do not believe that you are a failure.
After all, you are here wanting to change, and that's positive.
Porn is a disease that eats you up from the inside and then you spit up blood, guts and gore.
Then you die.....

I had to tell my wife. It made such a difference. I got addicted when I was 4. I never knew what lay in store for me when I found my dad's porn books.
Late in my life I have to fight this plaque.

You can do it Mark. Many have. But you need to be serious.
Make the needed adjustments. If you must get rid of phones, computers, laptops then do it!!!!!
Be strong and serious about recovery.
Put in a lot of effort.
Peter


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 9:55 pm 
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clearskycoming wrote:
I have read all your recent post and wanted to say "we are brothers". Same story exactly only I win! I was 40 years addicted. (I guess that's not quite what you'd call a win, hey?)

Hello Clearskycoming,

Thanks for the encouragement. Apologies for the delay in replying.

Yeah, I used to joke in the rooms how perverse a pride it is that we (meaning "I") AAs would sneer at OAs and other meeting "interlopers" because we were the "real deal". I also came to respect them more after my wizened old sponsor pointed out that though our consequences for drinking (the source of our skewed vanity) seemed more immediate and severe they also served as more effective deterrents. How hard must it be to lay off the extra portions, desserts and snacks when there are no attendant car wrecks, drunken fights, nights in jail or death awaiting directly? Only the same hangover of self-disgust, sense of failure and futility? Well, now I really know- It's the same as trying to lay off the porn, that's how hard it is.

So far, so good and I am sober since noon Tues. Getting into the danger zone, now. I am following the exercises, went to that church's recovery/Sexual Integrity meeting Thurs and am feeling ok. There's an SAA meeting 50 miles away on Tues eve, not sure I'll make that. Can't think of a workable excuse to cover my tracks.

I will take your pointers to heart. Not sure about the journaling biz, though. I love to write but I've hated journaling since the early days of recovery. We'll see.

Regards,
Mark


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 10:02 pm 
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Absolution wrote:
By far one of the biggest steps I've taken was walking into an SAA meeting in April of last year. There are others in SAA that can claim years and decades of sobriety.

I'd encourage you to find an SAA meeting and work up the courage to go. I didn't know what to expect myself, but it was much less uncomfortable than I initially thought it would be, and by the time I had gone to a couple meetings I was already feeling much more equipped to move forward through this addiction. You can find a meeting list here: http://saa-recovery.org/Meetings/


Hey Absolution,

Thanks for the advice. Couple of questions if I may:

1. How do you feel about their mixed meetings? Even though I live in metropolitan S. Florida, the only meeting within 50 miles is a weekly Mixed OD. I'd much rather be in a Men's meeting than talking about this among women.

2. Does their presence add an extra distraction given what it is we're struggling with?

Appreciate the help.

Mark


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 11:52 pm 
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Peter7105 wrote:
I had to tell my wife. It made such a difference. I got addicted when I was 4. I never knew what lay in store for me when I found my dad's porn books.Peter


Hello Peter,

Thanks for the encouragement.

Yeah, I'll tell my wife in due time. She already "knows" in vague, non-specific way but not the extent or longevity of it. I'm afraid it'll send her reeling when it dawns on her that every single thing about our life together and all of its ups and downs, especially the downs, was caused or colored by this addiction. Knowing the why of it may prove small consolation to her but I think the odds are good for me she'll forgive.

Not giving up. Thanks.

Mark


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 9:29 pm 
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Mark, I have not told my wife and plan never to. It would cause her too much pain.
I am becoming the best husband I can possibly be to silently pay her back.
She'll never know, but our relationship is so so much better without the P&M I am sure of that.
The only reason I can think of for telling her is absolving me of some guilt.
Hey Mark. I did all this is secret, I can become the cure in secret too.

The fruit of the tree is all the evidence I need. Better husband, no more addiction, better relationship.
I'll settle for that. Kind regards CSC

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:38 am 
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Mark51 wrote:
1. How do you feel about their mixed meetings? Even though I live in metropolitan S. Florida, the only meeting within 50 miles is a weekly Mixed OD. I'd much rather be in a Men's meeting than talking about this among women.

All the meetings I go to are mixed, and there's rarely any females. There is one female who comes regularly who's been in recovery for a few years, and she's active at meetings. Either way it's never really been a problem talking about this for me because although females are obviously a different gender, sex addiction doesn't discriminate and I can relate to sex addicts regardless of gender.
Mark51 wrote:
2. Does their presence add an extra distraction given what it is we're struggling with?

I've never been distracted, and I haven't heard of many men who have been. I think sex addiction is even more stigmatized for females than it is for males, and so females that work up the courage to go to an SAA meeting are usually serious about recovery. I hope this helps?

Your friend,
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